An M3 Owner’s Review of the 2010 Audi S4 B8 6-speed

"RightFootDown" (rightfootdown) 02/10/2014 at 14:13 • Filed to: audi, s4, e46, m3

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Yesterday I had a chance to check out the latest generation of the Audi S4. It's the B8 chassis, (2009+) and its supposed to be the best S4 to date. My view of the entire 4 series, not just the S4, has always been that they're nose heavy, under-steering machines. The S4 line just happened to be slightly sportier with much more power. I've always seen the S4 as a car better suited to daily driving than spending time on any track surface.

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The silver 2010 Audi S4 I looked at appeared to be very well appointed and spec'd out pretty much how I'd want it. Visible options included the sport differential, navigation, Bang&Olufsen stereo, charcoal/alcantara Recaro seats and 19 wheels. This was also a 6-speed manual. This car has just under 42k miles and is stickered at $37k. The original window sticker price when new was probably just shy of $60k.

So what is it like compared to my E46 M3? I'll tell you. Now.

I slipped in to the seats and pulled the door shut. It closed with a reassuring thud. The type of thud you expect from a high end car. So far, so good. Inhale, the car still smells new. Or maybe it's just a new-to-me smell. Maybe the original owner was just a pleasant smelling fellow. There were no signs of wear on the high friction areas of the seats. The metal surfaces of the shift knob and dials were still bright without any sign of tarnish.

Grab the wheel. Slide my hands along the rim to reach nine and three. The soft leather feels good though if I am going to nit-pick I'd say the design of the center of the wheel — specifically the square'ish shaped airbag and the lower arm — doesn't look up to par with the rest of the interior. The clutch depresses soft enough for a daily driver. I then adjusted the alcantara Recaro seats to their lowest point. Nice and low. Much lower feeling in the S4 than the M3 in lowest position. The alcantara and leather mix looks so sporty and feels so nice. I already love these seats and I haven't even begun to toy with the side bolsters or lumbar. I'm OCD about my seating position but had no problem getting comfortable and keeping the seat back up enough so that my wrists rest over the steering wheel at high noon. I want these seats.

The key to this S4 wasn't really a key at all. You insert this small rectangular key fob in to a slot to the right of the steering wheel. From there you can either push the circular aluminum start button to the left of the shifter or push the key fob deeper into the slot to start the engine. I pushed the aluminum button.

I'd like to say the engine roared to life but it did not. No, the battery wasn't dead. It was just that the engine firing to life was, well, uneventful. Starting the 3.2L S54 in the E46 M3 is much more exciting. The M3 is loud and you can hear the valve train. The V6 engine in the S4 is that kid who somehow sneaks into class without the teacher noticing. Is this thing on? The only indicator is the needle on the 'ol tach.

My E46 M3 is SMG. So driving it daily, I figured I'd be happy with the S4 in 7-speed automatic flavor but I gotta tell ya, driving this S4 with the 6-speed manual was blissful. The shift knob appears to be rather large but it fits nicely in your hand. I had no qualms about the transmission but, lets be honest, I'm not picky. As long as it isn't notchy like Tremec T-5 found the old Mustang 5.0s then I'm happy.

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Before we set off on the test drive I adjusted my mirrors, set the car to full dynamic drive mode and then noticed my ass was on fire. This thing must have seat heaters and they must be on full tilt. It took me a moment to figure out how to turn them off. See the dial to set your side of the dual climate control? Yeah, that one. The knob is surrounded by several buttons. The top right is for the seat heater. You don't just push the button — you push the button and then turn the knob to set the power level. Six settings to choose from. Seems excessive to me. I'm more than fine with the three settings in my M3. Does my ass really need that many temperature variants?

All set and ready to roll. We snaked through the parking lot out of the dealership. I drove gingerly for the first mile so I could quickly adjusted to the clutch feel and steering wheel buttons — all two of them. Both sides of the steering wheel featured a scrolling wheel, just like the wheel on your mouse. Roll the left one up or down and the display between the speedometer and tachometer allowed you to quickly choose your radio station from a list. Press the scrolling wheel to play that station. Scroll the opposite wheel to increase or decrease volume. I didn't try to press it so I'm not sure what that would do. Change source input, perhaps?

I then noticed the a faint orange light on the inside of the side view mirror housings that illuminated on occasion. Apparently these are blind spot indicators. I've never driven a car with this option. I never felt like I needed this option if my mirrors were adjusted correctly. Cool feature? Shrug.

Now we reach a light just before the highway to see what the S4 is like at cruising speed. The road we're on is like six lanes and I'm in the second from the far right for the two lane on-ramp ahead. We're first in line. A new Porsche Boxster S rolls up beside us. I noticed him, he probably didn't notice me. That's the stealthy bit about Audi's line-up. Their sedans are good looking. Sleek with a hint of sportiness. Unless you're in an R8, the average schmuck is never going to take a second look.

The light turned green. I rolled off the clutch and onto the gas, taking the V6 near topside of the rev range in a hurry. Second gear was short shifted but the supercharger provided more than enough mid range umph to pull the S4 ferociously. I was listening for supercharger whine the entire time. I wanted it to sound like the 03-04 Cobra. It did not. Even at full bore the engine and exhaust note was subdued. What the engine did do well was continue to pull hard. Impressively strong for a 3800 lb car with three passengers. We're about to upshift to 3rd gear and the Porsche Boxster S was at the S4s rear quarter panel. The driver must have been in disarray. My car salesman in the backseat? Speechless. He doesn't even sell Audi's!

We took the on ramp at speed and this is where I first felt… well, I think I felt, the sport differential doing work. The sensation was of the car rotating on its own through the corner while under power in an almost unnatural manner. If my M3 felt like that I would have a) prepared for opposite lock and b) thought my rear toe alignment was all sort of funky. What I believe was happening was the active sport differential was putting power to the rear and the rear differential was slowing the rotation of the inside tire. In practice it's really something else. I would have to get used to that sensation.

At highway cruising speed the S4 quieter than my M3. No surprise here. The M3 might just be louder at cruising speed than the S4 is under full throttle. Did I mention I love these Recaro seats in the S4? Front cabin space was ample. It was definitely more roomy than the M3 but not enough to lose the intimate feeling. The dash design and navigation layout grew on me as I drove. I couldn't tell for sure, but I felt the dash may have been slightly tilted toward the driver in similar fashion to the E46 M3.

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Perhaps the most disappointing trait of this 2010 Audi S4 was the steering feel and the suspension. Again, keep in mind that I'm coming from an M3. I think if I spent the day in my fiance's Corolla before jumping in the S4 then my opinion may have been different. The steering, while direct, was very light at low speed. The car was in Dynamic mode. I think that also sets steering input. Maybe not. At speed, the S4s steering was tighter and never felt bad, it simply lacked the communicative feedback I've become accustom to in BMWs.

The drive was over all too quick. Upon returning to the dealership I had to check out the rear seats. I have this thing about checking out the experience of a passenger. By that I mean just sitting in the back seats while the driver seat is how I would have it set. One of the reasons I'm looking at the S4 is to accommodate a growing family. With my driving position, the rear seats had plenty of leg room for me. It was easily more than the M3. The back seats were comfortable and looked to provide ample space for the inevitable family road trip.

I hyped myself up over this S4 well before getting to the dealer. As much as I wanted to love the Audi S4, I left the dealership feeling disappointed. I wanted — no — I expected the S4s suspension to feel tight. I expected the supercharger to be more pronounced under full throttle. What I had to remember was that the S4 was not an M3 and certainly was not a direct M3 competitor. I can hear the screaming Audi fanboys from here.

Remember what I said about the S4 being the sporty sedan more worthy of street surfaces than the race track? That's exactly what this is. And it's not a bad thing at all. The S4 is a grown up and slightly more civilized version of the M3 without the size of an M5. Compared to the V8 powered BMW M3 sedan, the S4 is more comfortable and provides just the right level of sportiness.

I'm an ex-racer. A new father. Chances are I'll never drive competitively on a race track again but I still want to enjoy the back roads, row through some gears, and fling the car around every one in a while. I commute in traffic so the interior has to be an environment that's enjoyable to live with. I want more space in my car for family trips but I don't want it to be so big it's a nightmare to park. I don't want worry about the road conditions or tomorrow's weather and am not going to drive an SUV or a mini-van.

Could it be, then, that the Audi S4 is exactly what I need it to be?

There is no way I could ever pull the trigger on a $40k car like this without an extended test drive and not to mention an extended warranty. A 20 minute spin around the neighborhood is insufficient time for me. I need to know what it's like to live with. Chances are if I was to drive it for a weekend I wouldn't want to return it. If this car doesn't make me want to proudly wear an Audi hat then it isn't the car for me. Isn't that what a new addition to the driveway should feel like?

CAR_IS_MI > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 14:18

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I got rid of my 2011 S4 after just 6 months of ownership. Mostly because DCT.

Audi-os, amigos > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 14:19

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They make a six-cylinder in the S4 now? Used to only be V8s.

RightFootDown > CAR_IS_MI 02/10/2014 at 14:28

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Besides the auto transmission, what didn't you like? What are you driving now?

Milky > Audi-os, amigos 02/10/2014 at 14:30

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For having a Audi symbol in your avatar you're a few years behind there buddy.

William Byrd > Audi-os, amigos 02/10/2014 at 14:32

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Yeah, like the latest M3, they went back to forced induction 6 cylinders vs. the V8s. Probably better for CAFE standards, but I prefer the 8s.

Nihilati0n > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 14:32

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I'm typically not a fan of all wheel drive but if torque split is 15/85 that's not bad at all! The S4 is a rather bland looking car and I can't seem to get over the hood spanning from the instrument cluster to the navigation screen.

Audi-os, amigos > William Byrd 02/10/2014 at 14:34

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A NA 8 will always sound better than a forced induction 6. Alas.

Audi-os, amigos > Milky 02/10/2014 at 14:35

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You mean this isn't the newest TT?

CAR_IS_MI > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 14:37

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The car was great, but it was my dd, and I didnt want to take the dog in it, because I didn't want her to ruin the leather / alcantara. And I had a warranty issue that the dealer refused to fix. Essentailly, the CPU that controlled the A/C, accessories and gauges would overheat and shut down on hot days. I would have to pull off the road and turn off / restart the car. The dealer never heard of this issue before and could not replicate it...

Now I drive a Jeep. Not as fast, luxurious, or really anything remotely like the S4, but it is manual, and fun, and I could care less if it gets dirty. Perfect DD.

Milky > Audi-os, amigos 02/10/2014 at 14:55

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Close …. but they just released the concept for the next generation.

Audi-os, amigos > Milky 02/10/2014 at 15:03

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It....it can see into my soul....and it sees nothing worth liking.

Milky > Audi-os, amigos 02/10/2014 at 15:12

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Well now it can't, don't worry baybey oppo will protect you. shhhss.

TJDMAX > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 15:39

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Great write-up. As someone who has been wanting a B8 S4 for quite some time now I enjoy any review of one I can find. Especially a truly personal review and not just a magazine comparison test.

To me the S4 is exactly what you say it is. It is a fun sporty DD car. I don't think it can keep up with any M3, I think that was always more of a direct competitor for the RS4. For what I would do with the car (DD, Road trip, second vehicle so I don't have to drive my 2500hd truck around all the time) I can't think of a "better" solution. To me I really like the interiors and feel that Audi's always have some of the best (potentially complicated) interiors. The S4 is somewhat "efficient" for a 4 door sports sedan and fuel mileage is a moderate concern when talking about a DD.

Thanks for the write up!

RightFootDown > TJDMAX 02/10/2014 at 16:15

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Glad you enjoyed it! I totally agree about the RS4 being a better competitor to the M3 and C-class AMG cars.

TJDMAX > RightFootDown 02/10/2014 at 16:25

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And for what its worth. I know that some car's came with the Sport diff but not the active suspension. And some came with the active suspension and it also is supposed to adjust the steering. I think (and I have never done this but have read this is what happens) is that more than just pressing the button on the dash and putting it into dynamic mode you can go into the settings on the MMI and tune the steering separately than the suspension.

Again, not 100% confident but I do know that there are some intricacies there.

RightFootDown > TJDMAX 02/10/2014 at 17:04

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I think that's the difference between ADS Lite and full-on ADS.

wrblue11 > RightFootDown 02/14/2014 at 14:39

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the steering input and feel of the e46 M3 is, in my opinion, simply awesome. so coming from that to pretty much anything would be a let down. I daily a 2011 wrx 5-door and when i get behind the wheel of the M3 i cant help but think the Subaru feels like a childs power wheel. Plastic and cheap.

SantaRita > RightFootDown 02/14/2014 at 15:01

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fanboy at your service...

I do think the audis are softer and more street-biased, but if you do drive the piss out of them, they'll do exactly what you ask.

I've gotten used to the quattro's stability control by now and while I typically hate the shit (these add-ons are diluting my kool-aid!) I really enjoyed being able to punch the throttle sliding around fingertip steering at will in these recent snows.

akant > RightFootDown 02/14/2014 at 17:22

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That's exactly what it is. The sport differential option gives you those 4 modes and allows you to tailor the individual mode's steering weight, engine/gearbox, and sport differential activity. In the DSG cars, the presence of a sport differential option means no "S" on the gear selector. The full on ADS I believe adds steering ratio and suspension settings. That's the big thing.

And from what I know, the sport differential actually shunts power to the outside wheel during hard cornering. So basically, it is only active while on the power.

As said before, it's a fantastic DD simply because it's a really well rounded car. Its fast enough that it can push you back in your seat, can corner well enough to keep you entertained, and it can still settle down after all that. The DSG is really great too, since you can some nice cracks on the upshifts and you can double downshift with the paddles and go on your way. Yes its a little more sedate than an M3, but like you said, I think that's the point. Depending on the roads, the suspension can seem a little stiff, with the car sometimes bouncing around, but that's probably the one annoying thing about it. Other than that, it's great!

vongeiss > RightFootDown 02/14/2014 at 19:22

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My biggest beef with the s4 is that it's been 10 years and they still can't beat an e46 M3

oz4 > wrblue11 02/15/2014 at 12:12

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uhhh... The E46 M3? The one where interior pieces fall off by looking at them? The E46 M3 invokes a lot of feelings in me but being sturdy, well built, truly track ready or fast are not any of traits that it has. The E46 M3 was pretty much the end of the Motorsport aspect of the M series for BMW.

wrblue11 > oz4 02/16/2014 at 18:55

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haha sound a but but hurt there bud

AW46M3 > oz4 02/19/2014 at 15:22

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Never had any interior pieces fall off of mine. A fog light surround yes, but no interior pieces.